I'd like to know if anyone runs the winter beast with a hydration vest and if compression socks are a good idea. Anyone?

I was planning to wear a hydration vest. I haven't worn compression socks in a while so wasn't planning that. Maybe for the drive home.

Required on back - recommended on front and back :)

Thank you

Yes there is a potty in the middle at the Gasport aid station. There are no other potties except for at the aid stations. Most of the course is rather secluded and border woodlots so I would suggest bringing some tissues because when you got to go, you got to go. I have done this several times and no one gets offended.

You can have one at the start/finish and turn around.

I use Hydratation Pack but under my coat. One of my friend have an insulator for the hoze and it's worked also.

In addition to the Lockport and Middleport aid stations the following cross roads have excellent access to the canal: Cold Springs Rd., Day Rd., Orangeport Rd., and Carmen Rd. Wruck Rd. and Peet St. have access but not directly from Rt.31. Pacing can start after completion of the first loop.

My wife and I will be headed up from NYC. We are looking for someone to help split transit costs. Hit me up via facebook.

If you can get yourself to Worcester, you can hop in my Subaru. Get in touch with me. You know how to do it.

Justin, I assume you've figured out your travel plans by now. Yes?

Hey all,

I recently signed up for the winter 50 mile run for January 2014. Traveling from MA.
I'm not sure of exact travel plans yet, but I will either be flying to Buffalo or taking a bus.

Would it be super expensive to take a taxi to and from the hotel/race? Anyone staying at a nearby hotel that I might be able to hitch a ride with?

Let me know,

Thanks!

You could easily wear either! Wear whatever you're most comfortable in. There is no need for trail shoes on this course, in the summer at least...

I ran some of the course last weekend, no need for trail shoes, gaiters however are nice since little pieces of rock and sand do get in your shoes.

There is a shower in the mens & ladies room at the marina itself, from what I've heard from other racers, we're allowed to use them post-race.

... also cannot find the COURSE MAP (on a MAC with FIREFOX AND SAFARI)

I also have never been able to access the map... wondering if there is anyone who has an old .pdf or something, and can share....

Same here

There is not much to the course map... , stich together the parts of the link below and you'll get to a map. The Western part is about a mile to a bridge, cross over then run East, reverse on return. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151829291101419&set=pb.211175236418.-2207520000.1376219536.&type=3&theater

The cutoff for the 50 Miler is 24 hours, and the cutoff for the 100 Miler is 30 hours

Hello Maryka, it's great to see that you're coming back again. To answer your question, "no," you don't need to wear pants or capris? We just need the bib number facing forward properly. Technically you could wear it pinned to the front of your shirt but, we'll address this issue in person (if there is one). For now, don't worry about anything. You wear whatever you want and what makes you most comfortable. See you soon!

Thanks Sam. See you Saturday morning!

Hey Ed - I have two red LEDs, you're welcome to borrow one if they happen to not be in the swag..

Thanks Bart that would be great. Looking forward to seeing you and the other Marathon Maniacs at the race this weekend. Did you get an email from the race director in the last few weeks? If so can you forward it to me at edwardjmasuoka@gmail.com. Thanks again. I will definitely take you up on the loan of a red LED if needed.
Ed

Can you please send me the email from the race director as well to: alex_lalonde@msn.com. See you on the course!

I haven't gotten an email yet, I think Sam probably hasn't sent them out yet. Like he said, all the info you need is basically already out there. Read the website carefully, and everything you need to know will be answered.

Thank Bart. I didn't have any questions except the red LED which thanks to you I've got it covered if it isn't in the swag bag.

http://ultrasignup.com/forum/eventnews.aspx?dtid=8010

I believe so but, you can confirm it by your receipt and by checking here: http://ultrasignup.com/entrants_event.aspx?did=15962

I am on there, Thank you fro getting back to me so soon.

Yes, there are a couple of public showers in each of the men's and woman's rest rooms.

Hi Brittany, I'm sorry but all the 50 mile slots are gone. We do this because we have to order awards well in advance and can only guess as to how many will sign up. I hope you still plan on coming to run. Nobody is going to force you to run all 100 miles if you don't want to. Well, that's not entirely true. I may do a lil' bit of yelling. LOL!

No shade accept at aid stations.

Hi Bart. Personally I love dogs but there's a lot of people who don't. I recommend putting a muzzle on any dog that could possibly come into contact with anybody as well as being leashed at all times. That being said, I still don't recommend bringing a dog. (See what I did there...a lil' "cover my ass" - LOL!) You're call bro! ; )

Hi Brittany. We really discourage pacers from using bikes during the day but, especially at night. The path is nice'n wide but, when you put 2 pacers in the mix at the same time it can cause problems and again even worse during the night. I hope you understand that my main concern is safety. Also, I can't promise you this but there's usually a few people at the aid stations that are willing to pace. Maybe you can pick one up? Either way, I hope you'll join us!

HeyNick, there's no official sign-in/up for pacers. Your pacers are welcome to use our aid stations as well. We wanna make sure they're well hydrated too. See you soon bro!

Thanks Sam. Don't worry about hydration with me...I'm a self-propelled aid-station! See you soon!

You should be all set. Check to confirm.

Hi Jodi, you're allowed to setup whatever you need at the start/finish (we encourage you to bring your own 10x10 pop-up tent) and we allow a drop bag at the turn-around. We will gladly take these there for you before the race. We "try" to bring these back for you but, you could end up waiting 1-2hrs before the next load is delivered. Of course you and/or your crew are welcome to pick them up at anytime during the race as well. ANY bag dropped at the Gasport aid station by your crew will most likely get you disqualified. This is the one rule I can't stress enough yet each race somebody tries to do it - uhhhg! Other than that...we just party!
Woo Hoo!

Hey Christine! There's no lighting out there. That's why flashlights/headlamps and a blinking LED light are required. Bring what you have but, in the years past that great race director of yours has always given these to his runners in their shwag-bag. ; )
(stay tuned...an announcement to all racers will be coming out next week)

Hey Colin, Sorry for the misunderstanding. You're pacer is welcome to run with you all the way through (and stop there to fuel up). We just ask that they do not drive there and then start with you there. The rule is mostly for crew. There's a much better place with a big parking lot about 1 mile away. This helps free up an already congested area.

Hi Joe, I'll take care of this for you. The entrant's list will be updated soon.

Mark, thanks I am excited to be a part of this !!!!

Heeeeeeey Joe! Glad to have you aboard for trip!

Hey Mark, I really appreciate the help. Any chance you can do the same for Rich Moran (from 100 to 50). If not, I can do later. Thanks bro.

All set.

Hey mark, can you do same for me (James Brennan?)

You're all set James.

Not a chance! OK, I'm kidding. Of course he's welcome to camp there. No worries mate - it's gonna be a blast!

Thanks Sam.

The only problem with that is we cut off the 50 milers at 24hrs. We give'em plenty of time but, we need to have a cut-off. Unless they plan on goin sub 24hrs - don't do it. ; )

Hi Nick, sure you could do that. You could also bring a tent to camp at the start finish.

Excellent Sam, thanks!

Hey Rich, Sorry to hear about your issues. When you have time please shoot an email to me here: resurrectionracing@gmail.com. No need to go over everything again - I'll remember ya (I hope - LOL!).;

Hi Erin! Yes, we have a strict cut-off time of 24 hours for the 50 miler.
; ) I don't see a need to make time an issue since we'll still be out there for the 100 milers. Plus, it gives an opportunity for slower paced runners to enjoy themselves without worrying about a cut-off.

Thanks Sam! That is great news. This will be my first ultra and not having a time limit hanging over me is awesome :-) thanks!

No problem - Glad you're excited. Being relaxed out there is what it's all about. See you soon!

Just signed up. Looking forward to seeing everyone in august!

Hi Gary. Sorry, no 24 Hr race this year. You're welcome to thump out 75 miles. If you want, register for the 50...see how you feel and if all is well - go for it! You're welcome to continue to use our aid stations. : )

Might try that. didn't log a good enough time in 50 (11:30) last year, to look real good for 100 in 30:00. of course at 60 years can't wait forever to try!

Hi Kellie! Nope, we never had the course certified.

Thanks Sam. I've got something in the works and would need a certified distance.
Kellie

Hi Rich! Thanks for your interest in our even and for contacting me prior. You're all set....APPROVED!

Thank you for the kind words. It was an honor to have you, your son and husband at the event. I've received a lot of wonderful emails and I must admit, it feels good to know that everybody is sooo appreciative and recognized all the hard work that went into this event. Now, I just got'a figure out how to top it at the winter race (and I think I've got it!).

Hey Tony! Thanks...we all appreciate the compliments. Stay tuned. In a week or so we'll open an online store where you can order extra BoB gear. We really enjoyed having you guys here. Now that you know what it's all about...You're required to show up in February!!!! LOL! ; ) Take care buddy!

Thanks Alfonso. I'm glad to hear you finally nailed your first 100 and did it on our course.

Sonja, if you haven't found them yet try here,
http://score-this.com/results.html

Thank you for the kind words and congrats on your finish! (Your Sub 24hr finish too!) I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. Come back again!

Sonja,
I was wearing gaiters and never had any problem with the gravel getting in my shoes. http://www.dirtygirlgaiters.com/

They're up! Go to our site and click the Reg tab.

sounds great! 5 ... 6 ... 7pm ... whatever ... we will be there!
Team Honey

sounds like a great idea.... 5 or 6 would be good. let us know what the final decision is.....Cheers

Count me in.

Same here. We will be camping at the start, as long as that is still allowed :-) Would love to chit the chat!

You should be fine camping out there again. Plus, I'll sleep better knowing we have somebody down there watching our gear. : )

Is there going to be a get together today?

I hope so. I plan to be there around 5 or 6.

We will also be there around 6. White Xterra with a rooftop tent! Can't miss us, come say hi! We will search out others too :-) Looking forward to tomorrow!

Crushed Cinder. Very few choose to wear gators. It's a personal pref.

Most of the surface is crushed rock/small cinders, although there are some spots that you will cross black top and some concrete but very limited.

Can you run on the grass next to the cinder?

Eric, yup!

You sure can! I'm setting up 4 of them!

You can crash right at the start/finish line. They lock the bathrooms late at night though.

Approx. 10' ; )

Well, there is the canal right there (But it's kind'a yucky). Yes, there are showers at the start/finish line.

Thanks Sam. That's great! See you Friday.

Awesome about the lights! Will you have a few extras in case one of my crew wants to pace me at night?

We're talking about setting up a table at race registration and offering a few items. We're still not sure if we're going to do it yet but, maybe this post will persuade me to do it. ; )

Along the same lines, do we have to have reflective vests? I guess I should have thought of this earlier :-)

No, you don't have to but, they sure do help. As long as you have your flashlight/headlamp on with your red blinking LED light on your back you should be fine....uhhhhh...I hope. ; D

Execellent! Now having done the two winter BoBs and this Joe's second summer BoB, we will look like freaking christmas trees during the night!

The start of the race takes place at a public park/boat launch. It's a rather wide open area along the canal with lots of grass. There are public bathrooms there but, they close around 9pm and reopen around 8am (i think). Each race we have a few people who camp out here and seem to be just fine. Personally, I need a comfy hotel the night before with showers and a continental breakfast. LOL!

There's a $10 toll on the way to and from Middleport but, I can get you an unlimited pass for $25. (OK...OK... So there's no tolls -Geesh!). There's picnic tables around and a covered pavilion right next to the towpath. I was at an event before where they rented out personal shelters for athletes that came in with nothing. We were considering setting up something similar to this right on the path and renting them out. I pictured them as a 10x10 tent with a table and set of 4 chairs. These would be split with one other runner too. Hmmmmm....the more I talk about it the more I want to offer it. (too the bat cave!)

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention one of my personal favorite sponsors...Little Debbie! They provide us with a wide variety of treats!

Rock on for noodle soup! Will this be available at the end of the 1st loop or will the soup not go on the stove until later in the evening? It would be great to have soup at the 25 mile mark if possible!

The soup doesn't usually come out until the later hours but, you never know. (this isn't directed toward you Adam so plz don't take it the wrong way - LOL!) I try to always remind people that the aid station food is just a bonus and never to count on anything that you had at the last aid station to be at the next aid station. ; )

Hello Allison! Be sure to read the "Crew" page on our website. Your runner should be able to tell you more about what he requires as everybody is different but, we provide a lot of food/drink. Also, if you're crewing/support or pacing be sure to read the "Rules" page as well. There's some very important info on there. When you're not helping your runner you're welcome to help us out at the aid stations. We're a little short handed this year and could use the extra help. See you soon!

Thanks Sam! I'd be happy to help and will be sure to read up more in detail on those pages! :)

I'm swamped right now but, I'll be looking into this soon and let you know.

ok, when you get the chance thanks

Just want to know if there are other competitors in the 24 hour elite as I don't want to be the only preson racing with a rucksack? Thanks!

Well, I'm sorry to say that as of right now you are the only one. This will be the first time I won't be able to run my own race. In the past I've had a lot of volunteers which allowed me to get out there, meet everybody & share lots of laughs. Now I'll be the guy that does the ICE runs (Ha! Ha!). Man, if I could I join you! I was hoping the 24 Hr "Elite" would've gained more attention after I first ran it in Feb. Well, I gave it a shot, right? We'll get you switched over to the reg. 24 hr event anytime. Even though the race is sold out, if we can find anybody else to do it w/you I'll let you know right away.

Are you military elite?

yep

Hey Tim! Sorry, I can't answer that one. I've never heard of them before (But, that doesn't mean they won't get service either)

this is most likely a stupid question, but i will be asking anyways... i have looked around for a "flashing light" that flashes for my back but i am not able to find one... does anyone have any ideas or any helpfull hints? (because i only have a head lap with an led front light)

Mitchel, it's not a stupid question. If fact, in the past I've always provided these for our runners...except this time! Uhg! LOL! Sorry everybody but, I just found out we won't have Road ID as a sponsor this time around but, I'm still trying to get something for everybody and I'll know more tomorrow so hang on. Just so everybody doesn't run out and get one I should tell you that we're providing everybody with a small handheld led flashlight. I'm not sure how good it will light the path but, it's better than nothing, right? Oh yeah... of course it will sport the B-o-B Log! ; )

BINGO! Hold for an announcement! : )

I had one free from a marathon 10 years ago and never used it. Now it doesn't work and new battery doesn't help. Bought new one at running store=$13

Can we have a drop-bag at the 2nd aid station as well?

Please read the "Rules" page.

Yup! We'll have them at each aid station for you. So...There's a potty every 6 miles (give or take a lil').

Hey Janice! We will gladly deliver everybody's drop bag to the turn-around before the race. You can drop them off to us when you check-in (8:30-9:30am). See above for food/drink details.

Crew/Support can join you at the start/finish line and at the turn around. ***PLEASE REMEMBER*** No crew /support is allowed at the mid aid station (Gasport aid station). This area is the busiest aid station since runners hit it twice in a loop. The parking lot is very small and the New York State Canal Corp is watching us closely to make sure we don't interfere with day-to-day use of the canal. This rule especially applies to those caught parking on the shoulder of the road. This is the one rule that I'm very strict on so please help me out here. I'm a very easy going guy but, failure to comply will result in a DQ (Sorry).

There's also a couple of spots that would be OK to use to meet up with your runner. There's the Day Road bridge that's about 2.5 miles into the run, Harrington Road Bridge BUT, there's no parking here so I suggest you don't use that bridge. Then there's one about a mile or so from the turn-around. There's a great parking lot there too. The parking lot is right on the towpath. All of these are acceptable.

Runners are allowed to hang out at chat with their crew and friends here but, we ask that you please do not sit in the car. You may give somebody the wrong idea. ; )

Can I seat in my car when I change my clothes, running shoes, socks, tend to my blisters...

Hey Miriam! Yes, you can sit in your car to change. I was half kidding when I said that. LOL!

On a somewhat related question - if we have stuff we'd like to stage at the turn around point - will we have to deliver it there on race morning?

Hello Sulaiman. Lockport does offer a taxi service. Timkey Limo operates a taxi service with clean cars and prompt service. You may want to write down their number: (716)-433-0699. Last time they offered a discount to racers on airport runs (40 min each way). I'm not sure what their rates are now though.

UPDATE: Packet Pick-Up will be help race morning from 8:30am-9:30am. Please be on time as our volunteers must leave by 9:30 to setup their aid stations on the course and be ready to serve you once the race starts.

I've had a lot of people ask for directions to the race start. It's posted on "The Course" page. You can click on the little map app button under the word DIRECTIONS to see the full Google map.
http://summer100.com/the-course

Ali Turfe, hello Sam Pasceri. I am looking forward to running the Summer Beast of Burden. I would like to know if a pacer on a bike is allowed on the course. Thanks!

Ahhhh....The infamous bike question. Again, our permit is issued for this event each year as long as we don't impede the day-to-day use of the Towpath. I just ask that if you see a runner heading toward you that you pull ahead of your runner so your not taking up too much room. The Towpath is open to the general public during the race, please ride with consideration and respect towards them. Other than that...Enjoy and have fun!